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		<title>Comment on Fun with Subtitles by Voodo</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/11/fun-with-subtitles/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Voodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kaliteli sohbetin mekanı</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaliteli sohbetin mekanı</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fun with Subtitles by Platonides</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/11/fun-with-subtitles/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Platonides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mwe- messages are missing, so there&#039;re funny , , etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mwe- messages are missing, so there&#8217;re funny , , etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Usability Beta Enhancements by Adam</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/usability-beta-enhancements/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bawolff - Sounds like you&#039;re asking for nested drop down menus. We weren&#039;t planning on any cases where we&#039;d need nested drop downs so there&#039;s currently no code in place for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bawolff &#8211; Sounds like you&#8217;re asking for nested drop down menus. We weren&#8217;t planning on any cases where we&#8217;d need nested drop downs so there&#8217;s currently no code in place for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Usability Beta Enhancements by bawolff</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/usability-beta-enhancements/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>bawolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats awesome. Just curious, is there an easy way to make drop-down menus from the drop down, for stuff added by user javascript? (aka a sub-drop down menu).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats awesome. Just curious, is there an easy way to make drop-down menus from the drop down, for stuff added by user javascript? (aka a sub-drop down menu).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Usability Beta Enhancements by Frank</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/usability-beta-enhancements/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naoko, the new watch/unwatch tab is great! I love it, Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naoko, the new watch/unwatch tab is great! I love it, Frank</p>
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		<title>Comment on Usability Beta Enhancements by Naoko</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/usability-beta-enhancements/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Naoko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.  It is done by JavaScript.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Usability Beta Enhancements by Josh</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/usability-beta-enhancements/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moving the tabs into the drop down menu is a very clever solution. How would that be done? JavaScript?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving the tabs into the drop down menu is a very clever solution. How would that be done? JavaScript?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by mofajjal</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>mofajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ... thanks for this post... well.. i gonna buy Sony Ericsson W760i - red  from 

http://www.buyergen.com/

has the phone resolved da issue? please lemme know...

Best regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8230; thanks for this post&#8230; well.. i gonna buy Sony Ericsson W760i &#8211; red  from </p>
<p><a href="http://www.buyergen.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buyergen.com/</a></p>
<p>has the phone resolved da issue? please lemme know&#8230;</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Nicolas Chevallier, Allogarage</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Chevallier, Allogarage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-425&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-425&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Derk-Jan Hartman&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;penubag&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
          What URL can this be accessed with?
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?
         &lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.m.wikipedia.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.m.wikipedia.org&lt;/a&gt;
And indeed, Nintendo Wii uses Opera. That is not entirely clear from the blogpost I guess.
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Not really clear effectively...</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-425" rel="nofollow">Derk-Jan Hartman</a> :</strong></p>
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<strong><a href="#comment-423" rel="nofollow">penubag</a> :</strong><br />
          What URL can this be accessed with?<br />
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?
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<p>No, <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.m.wikipedia.org</a><br />
And indeed, Nintendo Wii uses Opera. That is not entirely clear from the blogpost I guess.
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<p>Not really clear effectively&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Media Features Gadget by Bill Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will the fallback option be if Firefogg is unable to convert the video? Also, it&#039;ll probably be useful to log media information regarding unsuccessful encodings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will the fallback option be if Firefogg is unable to convert the video? Also, it&#8217;ll probably be useful to log media information regarding unsuccessful encodings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Derk-Jan Hartman</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Derk-Jan Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-423&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;penubag&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
          What URL can this be accessed with?
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?
         &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, http://en.m.wikipedia.org

And indeed, Nintendo Wii uses Opera. That is not entirely clear from the blogpost I guess.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-423" rel="nofollow">penubag</a> :</strong><br />
          What URL can this be accessed with?<br />
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?
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<p>No, <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.m.wikipedia.org</a></p>
<p>And indeed, Nintendo Wii uses Opera. That is not entirely clear from the blogpost I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by penubag</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>penubag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also  Nintendo Wii doesn&#039;t use net front, they use Opera&#039;s web browser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also  Nintendo Wii doesn&#8217;t use net front, they use Opera&#8217;s web browser</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by penubag</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>penubag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What URL can this be accessed with?
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What URL can this be accessed with?<br />
Just the regular mobile.wikipedia ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by UGG</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>UGG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for an update ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for an update &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Espen</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the search looked perfect before the October update.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Espen</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

FYI, the text input for the search at the very top of the page is somewhat broken in my Android powered HTC Hero (webkit).

It&#039;s a bit to wide, so it doesn&#039;t float next to the Wiki logo but rather floats below the logo, wasting a little space. Also, it has no borders, so it&#039;s a bit hard for n00bs to actually realize it&#039;s a input field there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>FYI, the text input for the search at the very top of the page is somewhat broken in my Android powered HTC Hero (webkit).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit to wide, so it doesn&#8217;t float next to the Wiki logo but rather floats below the logo, wasting a little space. Also, it has no borders, so it&#8217;s a bit hard for n00bs to actually realize it&#8217;s a input field there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Hampton Catlin</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Hampton Catlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@carsten: Email me anytime at hcatlin@wikimedia.org

Also, we are often working in #wikimedia-mobile on irc.freenode.net

Feel free to hang out in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carsten: Email me anytime at <a href="mailto:hcatlin@wikimedia.org">hcatlin@wikimedia.org</a></p>
<p>Also, we are often working in #wikimedia-mobile on irc.freenode.net</p>
<p>Feel free to hang out in there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by carsten</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful. Thanks much again!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Hampton Catlin</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Hampton Catlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@carsten: I&#039;ve also already fixed this issue. That&#039;s a very good point. I guess it made more sense before. Notices currently removed from native apps. However, we do reserve the right to inject those in the future for fund raising and etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carsten: I&#8217;ve also already fixed this issue. That&#8217;s a very good point. I guess it made more sense before. Notices currently removed from native apps. However, we do reserve the right to inject those in the future for fund raising and etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by carsten</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you&#039;re really fast! Your change solved my issue. Thanks much for your help!

While I have your attention, may I ask you another related question? 

I have noticed that header search bar is not included when loading a mobile Wikipedia page into an UIWebView, which is great. However, the message notice (e.g. &quot;Tip! Click the &quot;W&quot; above to get access to extra features&quot;) is still being displayed, which doesn&#039;t make much sense when there&#039;s actually no &quot;W&quot; button. Do you have any ideas how to suppress this notice, too?

Thanks much for your help again!
carsten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;re really fast! Your change solved my issue. Thanks much for your help!</p>
<p>While I have your attention, may I ask you another related question? </p>
<p>I have noticed that header search bar is not included when loading a mobile Wikipedia page into an UIWebView, which is great. However, the message notice (e.g. &#8220;Tip! Click the &#8220;W&#8221; above to get access to extra features&#8221;) is still being displayed, which doesn&#8217;t make much sense when there&#8217;s actually no &#8220;W&#8221; button. Do you have any ideas how to suppress this notice, too?</p>
<p>Thanks much for your help again!<br />
carsten</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Hampton Catlin</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Hampton Catlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@carsten: This should correct the problem. Deploying atm. http://github.com/hcatlin/wikimedia-mobile/commit/a0706011bfd5f364b8d635edc2f17a6d632c8cef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carsten: This should correct the problem. Deploying atm. <a href="http://github.com/hcatlin/wikimedia-mobile/commit/a0706011bfd5f364b8d635edc2f17a6d632c8cef" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/hcatlin/wikimedia-mobile/commit/a0706011bfd5f364b8d635edc2f17a6d632c8cef</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by Hampton Catlin</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Hampton Catlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@carsten: We&#039;ll get this taken care of. I think I know what the problem is. Right now, we&#039;re only paying attention to JSON requests that come from native iphone apps... I&#039;m fixing this at the moment so that it can also do HTML for your app. Our app specifically says ?format=json, so the assumption isn&#039;t required.

@shizhoa: We&#039;re working on it. The problem we&#039;re having with zh is that we have 3 types of translation strings for the one zh wikipedia. I have no idea which one to use!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carsten: We&#8217;ll get this taken care of. I think I know what the problem is. Right now, we&#8217;re only paying attention to JSON requests that come from native iphone apps&#8230; I&#8217;m fixing this at the moment so that it can also do HTML for your app. Our app specifically says ?format=json, so the assumption isn&#8217;t required.</p>
<p>@shizhoa: We&#8217;re working on it. The problem we&#8217;re having with zh is that we have 3 types of translation strings for the one zh wikipedia. I have no idea which one to use!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wikipedia Mobile October Update by carsten</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/october-mobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that these changes break other iPhone apps, which try to load en.m.wikipedia.org URLs. In my particular app I am getting an WebKitErrorFrameLoadInterruptedByPolicyChange error in the UIWebView delegate. If I try to load the very same URL in MobileSafari everything works perfectly. Also patching the HTTP User-Agent field to simulate Safari/Mac solves the issue. Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that these changes break other iPhone apps, which try to load en.m.wikipedia.org URLs. In my particular app I am getting an WebKitErrorFrameLoadInterruptedByPolicyChange error in the UIWebView delegate. If I try to load the very same URL in MobileSafari everything works perfectly. Also patching the HTTP User-Agent field to simulate Safari/Mac solves the issue. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Click Tracking on Edit Toolbar deployed by Roan Kattouw</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/click-tracking-on-edit-toolbar-deployed/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Roan Kattouw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nux #3: We do do controlled studies (I&#039;m seeing one being conducted right now), this click tracking is just an addition to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nux #3: We do do controlled studies (I&#8217;m seeing one being conducted right now), this click tracking is just an addition to that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Click Tracking on Edit Toolbar deployed by Nimish</title>
		<link>http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/click-tracking-on-edit-toolbar-deployed/comment-page-1/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Binning&#039;s not a bad idea; we&#039;d want to keep it logarithmic though, because there&#039;s (probably) a world of difference between a user with 1 edit and 10, but not between a user with 1000 edits and 1010. 

There will also be some noise in the data from users clicking and just wondering what the buttons do, but that should be minimal, especially over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Binning&#8217;s not a bad idea; we&#8217;d want to keep it logarithmic though, because there&#8217;s (probably) a world of difference between a user with 1 edit and 10, but not between a user with 1000 edits and 1010. </p>
<p>There will also be some noise in the data from users clicking and just wondering what the buttons do, but that should be minimal, especially over time.</p>
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